Pitbulls must be banned

Published on April 18, 2005 By sushiK In Current Events

Enough is enough

What does it take to institute a National Ban on Pitbulls within the US?
Pitbulls are just too dangerous in the wrong hands.

Seems like every month I hear of a new mauling where a kid has been torn apart because of some careless owner.
Owners in these cases should be charged with involuntary manslaughter.

I am using this forum to post each and every Mauling case that takes place.

Comments (Page 5)

ParaTed2k

on Apr 20, 2005

You disappoint, like Myrrander, you too can't seem to see the difference in value between people and animals. Pissy way to make an arguement.

Sorry, I thought you had the ability of abstract thought. Let me spell it out a little more clear. It has nothing to do with comparing animals to humans, it has everything to do with whining away our freedoms. If you whine enough, sure, your neighbors will be threatened by laws to comply with your wishes. However, since your neighbor also has the ability to whine away YOUR freedoms, don't be surprised when you find the law breathing down your neck too.

Here's a great idea that would require no changes in the laws, and would free you of your pesky neighbors overbearing effect on your life.

If your neighbors' dogs are so often invading your yard, put out live traps. When you catch these trespassers, call the pound to come pick them up. Then, depending on how far you want to push it, decide whether or not you want to inform your neighbor of the whereabouts of their viscious pet.

That way, the owners of the animals on your block that are not a problem in your life, will not have to be bothered by you, and the owners of the animals that are a problem, can be made to pay.

bakerstreet

on Apr 20, 2005

"However, since your neighbor also has the ability to whine away YOUR freedoms, don't be surprised when you find the law breathing down your neck too."

You insist on ignoring the fact that my right to protect myself has already been eroded if not completely denied, without anything being made to replace that ability. Stop acting like this is an unprovoked attack on poor animal lovers. This is a reaction TO AN ATTACK on my own freedoms BY animal lovers.

Keep on with your knee-jerk "freedom at all costs" crap. It's transparently unrealistic, given that you DON'T have the right to own anything you like, and that there are already breeds of dogs and other animals that are restricted. God help us if we are guarenteed every right that any kook can invent.

If people are worried about the horrific loss of freedom when they lose the right to own a pit bull, they should have given a damn about my right to shoot their stupid dog when it behaves threateningly.

Democracy is a balance. When you screw me over and tell me that I have to rely on the government's judgment on when I can protect myself, expect that excess to be matched when the government decides to protect me.

ParaTed2k

on Apr 20, 2005

Ok, so since we have already whined away many of our freedoms, then we might as well just throw the rest away too??

Democracy is a balance. When you screw me over and tell me that I have to rely on the government's judgment on when I can protect myself, expect that excess to be matched when the government decides to protect me.

So quit relying on the government's judgement!

GOVERNMENT, TAKE CARE OF ME, MY DIAPER IS FULL AND I'M JUST TO STUPID TO THINK FOR MYSELF!! wAH WAHH WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I already recommended a course of action, but that would require you getting off your butt and actually doing something.

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If the solution to your problem requires more of everyone else than yourself, it is just an excuse

Dr Guy

on Apr 20, 2005

You, sir (or ma'am) are just as stupid as the rest of the people in this nation that want to ban the breed. Do you not realize that "any" dog in the wrong hands can be just as dangerous as a pit bull? Too many people have stigmitized this breed due to the fact that some people decide to raise their dogs to be mean.

First, Pit Bull is not a breed.

Second, you are right.

Ionolast

on Apr 20, 2005

LW: 1. Can't you move? 2. In the city here (but not in the county) there is a law against dogs that bark excessively. You can call animal control and they will come out and make the dog's owner do something about the barking. I am not suggesting you move here.

Mr_Frog

on Apr 20, 2005

I notice that this conversation has conveniently ignored most of little_whip's well thought out advice for dealing with the problem proactively while still allowing ownership of these dogs. Rather than being a book-burning Nazi and screaming "Ban them! There EEEEVVAAAALLLLL!!!!!!11!!!1111ONEONE" (Even with her current and well deserved fear of her neighbor hood dog denizens) She has come up with quite a few suggestions that could be applied singly or in tandem with each other to come up with a solution that would benefit BOTH parties. Bakerstreet, I know that you're smarter than what you're letting on to be, and I'm truly suprised that in the interest of comprimise, you couldn't come up with any other ideas than just getting rid of the dogs.

So what next? When the pit bulls are gone, are you going to go after Weimeriners? German Shephards? When the MSM can't villify Pit Bulls anymore, which will be the next breed that the banners will target?

-- B

Moderateman

on Apr 20, 2005

historical note: the english pit bull terrier was a product of the original english bull dog and the white staffordshire terrier, the reason for the breed was that the original english bulldog was condemned to extinction for biting a house royal prince, king george {yes the king we threw outta america} ordered the destruction of all english bulldogs, {not the slack jawed droolers of today} but a straight legged deep chested powerhouse of a dog.

breeders of the day not wanting to lose the breed entirely started a breeding program to keep some of the traits of the original english bulldog intact.

What makes the american pitbull terriers of todaY SO NASTY IS THE HUMANS NOTthe dogs, As a former member of the american pit bull terrier assoc. based out of saltlake city, I can say this the very first credo of real dogmen follows : a people mean pitbull is NOT to be bred, it is to be destroyed immediatly, american pitbull terriers are fine animals, smart, loving and fiercely protective of their humans and in general love ALL HUMANS, it is the shithead backyard breeders that cause these peoplemean animals, bad breeding, cross breeding with other animals bring out the worse in pits.

sushiK

on Apr 20, 2005

L_w and others,

You have made some valid compromises on what could be done.
Restrictions like the ones you mentioned would definately help curb the problem with Pits and Neighborhoods.

I do feel however, as a parent, that even this solution would fail to prevent attacks in areas that there just weren't enough control officers to go around, or budget cuts ran too deep.

Someone yesterday made a great point that all dogs could be put in this dangerous category if owned by a malicious owner.
The difference is an attack by a Pitbull is more likely to be devastating due to their locking jaw and physical power.

Pits should be reclassified and taken out of reach for the normal citizen to own, even as someone mentioned if this is
LIKELY to cost Billions

sushiK

on Apr 20, 2005

This just in...

2 Dogs That Mauled Man Owned By Former Browns Player
Man Recovering In Hospital After Attack Outside Home

UPDATED: 12:31 pm EDT April 20, 2005

PARMA, Ohio -- An 82-year-old Parma man was hospitalized after being attacked by three dogs outside his home, and the animals' owner could face charges.

NewsChannel5's Joe Pagonakis reported that the man was watering the flowers near his house Tuesday when he was suddenly knocked over and mauled.

Animal Control Officer Julie Kocik said the man was attacked by a Cane Corso, an American bulldog and a pit bull. Combined, the three dogs weighed nearly 300 pounds.

Somehow, all three dogs were able to get through a gated fence before the attack.

SLIDESHOW: Parma Dog Attack

Kocik was called to the scene after the attack.

"I have seen everything, but I have never seen something like this," said Kocik.

Tabatha Kennedy, who lives next door and whose 16-year-old daughter witnessed the attack, believes that the dogs should not be returned to their owners.

However, the Cane Corso is already back with its owner. The American bulldog and a pit bull are owned by former Browns player and current Bears player Darnell Sanders.

He had taken to the dogs to his friend's house in Parma. That's where they got loose.

Kocik said dogs on the loose are a growing problem. She said that 31 dogs have been rounded up already this month.

Violators could be given fines totaling more than $100.

The victim may have to stay at the Cleveland Clinic for another week.

"I did see the victim in the hospital and hopefully I'll never see that again," Kocik said.

The owner of the dogs could face criminal charges. Animal Control is deciding whether the dogs should be permanently taken away from their owner.

Copyright 2005 by NewsNet5. All rights reserved. This material

Gideon MacLeish

on Apr 20, 2005

How about a few FACTS about pitbulls, rather than hysteria?

Link

sushiK

on Apr 20, 2005

How about a few FACTS about pitbulls, rather than hysteria?

Always the drama Queen Gideon.

Please forgive me for the name calling, lets get back on track
No hysteria here just two posted News Stories from comfirmed news sources.
And people talking their opinions.

Gideon MacLeish

on Apr 20, 2005

Actually, PLENTY of hysteria here, sushi, as your OPINION is that people are too stupid to make decisions for themselves and you should make them for them.

As for my being a queen, that's just wishful thinking on your part, sushi?

Or is it? Have too many episodes of Will & Grace warped my brain? You decide (but maybe your hot pants weren't such a good idea).

Moderateman

on Apr 20, 2005

#74 by Gideon MacLeish
Wednesday, April 20, 2005

How about a few FACTS about pitbulls, rather than hysteria?

nice work gid and totally ignored I see, how come whenever someone posts something that shows the original post to be wrong it's totally ignored?

Mr_Frog

on Apr 20, 2005

how come whenever someone posts something that shows the original post to be wrong it's totally ignored?

Because people hate to admit they're wrong...hence "The customer is always right."

:/

-- B

bakerstreet

on Apr 20, 2005

ugh. I yeild the field. There seems to be two groups opposing here, the "Isn't my puppy's sweater precious" group, and the "It's the damn government and their black UN helicopters!" militia. I see little hope of understanding from either.

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